Tuesday, December 8, 2009

BD vs TOB (3 Years In)

Mike Sturdivant:
  • Crap bowl appearances - Butch 2, TOB 1 (both so far were losses to average Big East teams)
  • Winning ACC records. Butch 0; TOB 0 (NCSU and UNC have combined for 2 winning league records over the last 11 years, and both were at 5-3, don't tell anyone outside the ONH).
  • Overall records. Butch 20-17; TOB 16-21.
  • Head to head wins. Butch 0; TOB 3.
External factors:
  • Butch, essentially has one more recruiting class in of his own, as he was hired with three weeks left in Bunting's final season. TOB was not hired until a few weeks after the Chest's last season, and at the start of a recruiting dead period, and TOB couldn't start recruiting until less than a month before signing day and primarily was only able to hold on to some members of the Chest's final lame duck class.
  • TOB's first three squads have had the most incredible run of injuries in the recorded history of mankind, each year unthinkably getting even more severe, finishing up the third year with 35% of the scholarship roster (and one offensive coordintor) on the shelf. You take away 35% of Butch's last two teams, and they aren't winning 8 games. Until this is changes, NC State has no chance to win.
What does this mean:
  • Carolina fans will say - "we've won 4 more overall games and have been to two bowl games in Charlotte, and you've been to one in Birmingham, we are dominant."
  • State fans will say - "we've beaten your arse 3 out of 3 times, we are dominant."
  • Especially considering the injuries and recent recruiting class who are yet to make an impact, 3 years later, I'll take TOB in this toss us every time. I assume Lawrence Jordan will disagree.
  • We get a few more years to figure this out, but the entire ONH will take TOB v. Butch, over Chuck v. Bunting.
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3 comments:

  1. While the Heels did finish 4-4 in the conference and in the middle of their division, they came closer to living up to expectations than the Pack.

    Injuries are a part of football and the Heels have been missing their fair share of starters for the past two years, too.

    Winning records and bowl games are an improvement over previous coaching regimes. Is Tom outperforming the Chest by a large margin?

    BUT - I do agree. BD/TOB > Chest/Bunt-cake
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  2. I'll admit the Heels came closer to meeting expectations than the Pack in 2009, 8-4 beats 5-7 (despite the 3rd consecutive head to head win). But the Heels, or any other college football team, have not had anywhere close to "their share" of injuries as compared to TOB's Pack. Sure the Heels lost 4-6 contributors at different times this year, but thats far different than losing 18 players for the year, and 10-12 others for parts of the year. When you're without 35% of your scholarship players, you can't even have a real college practice, much less try to win a game. Players can't even learn their position or develop experience, as they are constantly being moved to other spots to fill in where 2-3 people are already gone. Losing this many players in one year is simply unheard of in college football. Injuries are part of the game, this many injuries is bad luck - times twenty. MS
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  3. Not all these injuries are during games. Is there something wrong with the strength and conditioning programs in Raleigh?
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